tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21731268.post731306463906027710..comments2023-09-19T07:53:29.105-04:00Comments on Live, Love, and Learn: The Pretense of ScienceJohn Hostyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05152742238759546206noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21731268.post-40672635196374645492008-05-01T20:39:00.000-04:002008-05-01T20:39:00.000-04:00The answer is simple; we need to constantly questi...The answer is simple; we need to constantly question in order to get the best results. <BR/><BR/>Whenever people work together on something they need to brainstorm and bear in mind all input.<BR/><BR/>In constantly questioning myself I sharpen my arguments so that my points are more easily understood. <BR/><BR/>This concept is one of the reasons I value your input so much even though we disagree a lot.John Hostyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05152742238759546206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21731268.post-50620092024670867352008-04-30T07:40:00.000-04:002008-04-30T07:40:00.000-04:00why do you constantly question it?why do you constantly question it?Paul Jamiesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03052473631921432161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21731268.post-87013241106462159362008-04-29T17:02:00.000-04:002008-04-29T17:02:00.000-04:00Paul, how do you know when authority is wrong if y...Paul, how do you know when authority is wrong if you don't constantly question it?John Hostyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05152742238759546206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21731268.post-83485061138008499602008-04-29T16:50:00.000-04:002008-04-29T16:50:00.000-04:00Because the Church is usually rightHas been for ag...Because the Church is usually right<BR/><BR/>Has been for agesPaul Jamiesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03052473631921432161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21731268.post-11097673344248846002008-04-29T15:58:00.000-04:002008-04-29T15:58:00.000-04:00"Even if science does determine differentiation in..."Even if science does determine differentiation in the brain at birth," Throckmorton says, "even if there are prenatal influences, we can't set aside teachings of the Bible because of research findings."<BR/><BR/>This statement sounds a lot like someone who knows the truth and just does not want to accept it.<BR/><BR/>Paul, while you are looking for evidence please review the website borndifferent.org.<BR/><BR/>Here's something else to consider:<BR/><BR/>Galileo has been called the "father of modern observational astronomy", the "father of modern physics", the "father of science", and “the Father of Modern Science.<BR/><BR/>Yet Galileo's championing of Copernicanism was controversial within his lifetime. The geocentric view had been dominant since the time of Aristotle, and the controversy engendered by Galileo's opposition to this view resulted in the Catholic Church's prohibiting the advocacy of heliocentrism as potentially factual, because that theory had no decisive proof and was contrary to the literal meaning of Scripture. Galileo was eventually forced to recant his heliocentrism and spent the last years of his life under house arrest on orders of the Inquisition.<BR/><BR/>There are many instances of the Church intereferring with the world of science. We now know that the Church was wrong in this and other instances. <BR/><BR/>Why should people who are speaking against scientific findings be believed with the strong influence of the Church behind them?John Hostyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05152742238759546206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21731268.post-64950103891562080142008-04-29T12:54:00.000-04:002008-04-29T12:54:00.000-04:00well you are wrong - I will produce evidence short...well you are wrong - I will produce evidence shortlyPaul Jamiesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03052473631921432161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21731268.post-37529495117396730652008-04-29T12:26:00.000-04:002008-04-29T12:26:00.000-04:00The Global Scientific community agrees with me tha...The Global Scientific community agrees with me that sexual orientation is not a choice.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03277613176895587358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21731268.post-58755042771857257922008-04-29T12:06:00.000-04:002008-04-29T12:06:00.000-04:00answer the question JohnWhy then does the Global s...answer the question John<BR/><BR/>Why then does the Global scientific community not agree with you?<BR/><BR/>Do you know anything about the scientific method and proof?Paul Jamiesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03052473631921432161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21731268.post-19010375215826648702008-04-29T11:36:00.000-04:002008-04-29T11:36:00.000-04:00The Global Scientific Community does not believe t...The Global Scientific Community does not believe that sexual orientation is a choice.<BR/><BR/>A few cranks do, sure, but there are a few cranks that deny heliocentrism.<BR/><BR/>That sexual orientation is not a choice is simply beyond obvious.<BR/><BR/>No more proof is needed beyond observation.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03277613176895587358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21731268.post-84609306579310074582008-04-29T11:31:00.000-04:002008-04-29T11:31:00.000-04:00so why does the American, no the global Scientific...so why does the American, no the global Scientific community disagree with you John?<BR/><BR/>I guess they aren't "serious"<BR/><BR/>There is no proof to your claim.<BR/><BR/>And Mr Maneker, exuse me, but your Christianity is not my Christianity<BR/><BR/>And what makes your brand of Christianity better or truer than mine?<BR/><BR/>You guys can keep trying but please don't be alarmed when we fight back. <BR/><BR/>Why can you fight and not us?Paul Jamiesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03052473631921432161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21731268.post-32583211668888860522008-04-29T10:57:00.000-04:002008-04-29T10:57:00.000-04:00"Even if science does determine differentiation in..."Even if science does determine differentiation in the brain at birth," Throckmorton says, "even if there are prenatal influences, we can't set aside teachings of the Bible because of research findings."<BR/><BR/>It's statements like these, and a mind-set that would even suggest that facts of the matter are irrelevant compared to a mere fallible person's interpretation of sections of the Bible, that make Christians look like a pack of freaks! And every Christian who is a Christian indeed should deeply resent such statements as they besmirch Christians, Christianity, and God Himself!Jerry Manekerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00748201321055468172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21731268.post-54503025132879165302008-04-29T10:53:00.000-04:002008-04-29T10:53:00.000-04:00I brought the simple indisputable fact that sexual...I brought the simple indisputable fact that sexual orientation is not a choice.<BR/><BR/>No serious person believes that it is.<BR/><BR/>You brought up Throckmorton.<BR/><BR/>Of course I dismiss NARTH out of hand. Their research is demonstrably false.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03277613176895587358noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21731268.post-34632123666607436702008-04-29T10:49:00.000-04:002008-04-29T10:49:00.000-04:00Actually - John brought it up - but I know you lik...Actually - John brought it up - but I know you like to slander people with untruths<BR/><BR/>Here we go again<BR/><BR/>Here are 20 -30 articles you can spend some time refuting as well<BR/><BR/>http://www.narth.com/menus/born.html<BR/><BR/>and of course you will dismiss NarthPaul Jamiesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03052473631921432161noreply@blogger.com