Friday, April 11, 2008

Archbishop Tutu Speaks for Gay Civil Rights


"'How sad it is,' he said, 'That the Church should be so obsessed with this particular issue of human sexuality when God's children are facing massive problems-- poverty, disease, corruption, conflict...'

"'We struggled against apartheid in South Africa, supported by people the world over, because black people were being blamed and made to suffer for something we could do nothing about-our very skins,' he wrote. 'It is the same with sexual orientation. It is a given. I could not have fought against the discrimination of apartheid and not also fight against the discrimination that homosexuals endure, even in our churches and faith groups.'"

[For the full article, see here.]

Archbishop Desmond Tutu is one of the sane voices in the institutional Church who not only refuses to major in the minors, but sees that civil rights for one group requires civil rights for all groups! LGBT people deserve and require the very same civil and sacramental rights enjoyed by all other citizens, and he clearly sees that fact and knows that being a Christian requires him to speak about that fact every chance he gets.

All too often we see smug, arrogant, judgmental legalists claiming to be Christians and claiming to speak for God. It's refreshing to see a Christian in action! ~Dr. Rev. Jerry Maneker


This is an amazing step for Christian leadership. Tutu's guidance adds dignity to the old world ways of actually caring to do things for the right reasons. When your job is to teach unconditional love it helps to understand it yourself.

Archbishop Tutu, Thank you with everthing I am!

11 comments:

Fannie said...

"'How sad it is,' he said, 'That the Church should be so obsessed with this particular issue of human sexuality when God's children are facing massive problems-- poverty, disease, corruption, conflict...'


That's so true. Once more people realize that "traditional values" groups are more obsessed with gay sex than they are with solving society's ills, that will be the downfall of the movement.

John Hosty-Grinnell said...

Fannie,

I've called out one of the websites that claims to be pro-Catholic while it maintains open support for MassResistance.com.

The interaction between their world and ours is rather interesting. I'd also note that Renee from Opine Editorials has posted here, which is an interesting side note:

http://dtf-jayg.blogspot.com/2008/03/latest-email.html

It is my intention to comtinue to track down support for hate and route it out where ever I can. By shedding light and truth on their lies we can bring about a much faster end to their tyranny.

Fannie said...

Thanks for the info John.

Paul Jamieson said...
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John Hosty-Grinnell said...

Paul, you've been warned before numerous times that personal attacks are not welcome here, so I deleted your last comment directed at fannie.

In the future limit your comments to the matters of the thread and do not create ad hominem attacks. They are not conducive to intellectual debate, and they are distasteful.

You are more than welcome to submit your dissenting opinions, fact based or not. We do not have to see eye to eye in order to have dignity in our debates. Please let this be the last time we have to have this chat, shall we?

Paul Jamieson said...

oh cmon Hosty

You and Fannie are alike

If you can't stand the heat - get out of the kitchen

Fannie can't handle the heat - she can dish it out - but can't take it - what a sad person

John said...

"You and Fannie are alike"

Well they are both hawt!

Seriously, Paul, you don't have a tenth of their intellect.

Paul Jamieson said...

Who said anything about intellect?

You sound like the typical "San Fransiscan" who is bitter about the state of the USA.

So you cling to your blogging and secularism to get you through the day.

John said...

It is YOU, not us, who is bitter. YOU are bitter because the American system works.

In America, every person (of standing, obviously) has the right to stare down his/her legislature and say:

"I don't care about the 'will of the people'.

I don't care if your law passed by 95% of the people or the legislature. I don;t think your law is right; I don't think your law is fair; I don't think our constitution permits you to have your stinking law."

And then YOU, the majority, now have to show that your bigoted laws are fair, just and most important, constitutional.

You failed the test.

And now you're bitter.

John Hosty-Grinnell said...

Paul, stay on the topic of the thread, that is not a big request. If you want a thread to bitch about how you feel we are I'll gladly start one for you, but for the sake of keeping a conversation on target you must stop these little sidebars.

No more verbally pulling Fannie's pigtails or sticking your tongue out at John or I'll give you a time out. ;)

Paul Jamieson said...

But John it is my intention to comtinue to track down support for hate and route it out where ever I can. By shedding light and truth on their lies we can bring about a much faster end to their tyranny.

you people are bitter haters

Most of you don't even have the courage to post under your real names - John and Fannie come to mind

and like I said before, as long as you are reading my posts, i could care less if you censor me